A general discussion on all of your favorite builders & designers of downeast boat 25ft and over & your experiences, opinions, and specs of each. Mussel Ridge History I'm not sure that Mussel Ridge has a proprietary design of their own. Cyclonaias nodulata 145 267 50 462 2. Then my wife and I continued it when we bought the Holland 38 and named it after both my mom and my daughter Rose. The attention to detail with the wiring and plumbing is perfect. 5 Mussel Ridge by Clark Island Boatworks | Downeast Boat Forum. MikeA 42′ Mussel Ridge from Maine. icemang Captain. He currently has sixteen 46’ and nine 48’ boats on order. #4. Beautiful boat for sure, well set up for tuna fishing but surprised it doesn't have a door. Go. Town Of Owls Head 224 Ash Point Drive Owls Head, ME 04854 207-594-7434 2023 Annual Report Town of Owls Head MaineThat is the filter that was changed at around 160 hours and now looks nasty again, I have a racor system, new 42 mussel ridge , so far John deer is just giving me a run around very different from cat!! Feb 12, 2019 #25 P. Another difference is the hull sheer looks taller/higher on the MR than the Wesmac. Single floor living is offered with a first floor primary. . Joined Nov 22, 2013. Commercial Vessels: For Sale: LOBSTER BOATS FOR SALE in MAINE USA MaineThis is Shawn Moore's new 42 Mussel Ridge . 1 Mussel Ridge Ln, is a single family home, built in 2001, with 3 beds and 2. . 42 Mussel Ridge Cool thanks for the vids. This is a bronze 0 degree tilt dual frequency 50/200 . Joined Jan 1, 2012 Posts 7,869 Likes 8,081 Location Boothbay, Me Website First Name John Boat Make 26' Leblanc, 23' Seaway x 2, 14' Hollandcouple of pics of the 42 mussel ridge hull, thought i should take them before the boat is covered with snow. TWELVE Mussel Ridge Fishing Vessels filmed over the last three years!From 42' to 48' with John Deere, Volvo Penta, CAT and SCANIA power!All hulls manufacture. Ed . What's new. Hello all, I was member on here a long time ago, had since lost my login info so created a new one and wanted to share some pics of our boat. Jul 22, 2021 #2 ArchHibb Admiral. time to polish, any thoughts? should I add some biobor, or what is the best. Mussel Ridge Boats For Sale By Owner. just spent the last 3 days on a 42 mr canyon hopping, the boat is essentially a moving island. Reactions: Abcdefgh, SYo, winterking and 18 others. Learn more about this amazing, hidden beach in Maine in this article! Stop #10: Lily Bay State Park Beach / Dunn Point, Piscataquis County. 28' Mussel Ridge 28-2015-Buzzards Bay-100832732. In 2005 the first Mussel Ridge 42' was launched. For the people here who said the mast needed trimming, you were right and I did. 2017 Tiara 44 Coupe Advancing the success and excitement of the Tiara Coupe. NAI Realvest Daytona Beach. 1 Cold Seeps in the South China Sea. 44. Mar Biol 132:625–633. 32. Ash Point (Trails End) Water access at the end of Ash Point Drive with views of Ash Island and Mussel Ridge Channel, approximately 100’ wide with parking for 3-4 cars. After the True North was launched, Sargent’s Custom Boats began building a 42 Mussel Ridge for a lobsterman in nearby Lamoine. house located at 18 Mussel Ridge Ln, Owls Head, ME 04854. . Mussel Ridge. 3 bed. Site description. Mar 9, 2019 #9 Backnaction 1st Mate. opalwholesalers. 28' Mussel Ridge 28 DowneastLocation: Buzzards Bay MA United States. Awesome Electronics @ METS Trade 2023 in Amsterdam. Last edited: Feb 20, 2021 Dec 15, 2020 #2 Powderpro Admiral Joined Hutchinson Composite, Cushing, Maine. 46 Mussel Ridge 46 Wesmac 38 H&H 37 Duffy 32 BHM Runners up: 42 H&H 40 Young Brothers 38 Northern Bay 32 H&H 26 General Marine . Anything close to 32x32 would be good. PatriciaLynn said: I have been following your project, quite a rig. The hull to the left is a 42' Mussel Ridge, very similar to the 42' Wesmac with a "better" keel and a larger engine room. ) 42' Mussel Ridge Lobster Boat - Scania 600 HP For Sale. Website. 235. 108k Gross income, expenses10k a year. 2 knots in light wind. ExpandManual landmarks were assigned where the ridge meets the perimeter of the shell and approximately halfway in between those two locations (Fig. Wesmac 42 Scania 1150 HP I happened to pull in there last summer on a boat, the hull was in the yard, the Pretty Rose Holland I "think" belongs to the owner. Removed 5 3/4" and sailed three times since. ft. Mar 9, 2019 #9 Backnaction 1st Mate. 42' Mussel Ridge Lobster Boat - Scania 600 HP For Sale. This is a well built, well planned, stylish vessel. Depth (mm) to. . While the shop started production on a brand new 48'x17'6" design this year, the foundations of their business are the Mussel Ridge 42 and the Mussel Ridge 46, born of the same mold (4 feet are added to the 42’s transom). The interiors of Mea Culpa, which were designed by Marnell Corrao, can accommodate up to. 5 Mussel Ridge by Clark Island Boatworks | Downeast Boat Forum. A fully equipped galley that can be easily separated from the living space is accompanied by a transforming dining area with seating for eight. then add that to the dry weight of 32,000 and the rest of the gear and your looking at well over 40,000 lbs. Mussel Ridge 42 Engine selection. Water views from practically every room this home offers single floor living with the primary bedroom suite located on the first floor which opens to a deck. Keep in mind that this is not a hull that was designed by Thomas Bernardi who designed the 42 Mussel Ridge. I have for sale a 30x31 LH wheel w/2. Last edited: Jan 12, 2020. com or call the office at 207-667-7427. How the three-ridge attracts its fish host is unknown. Mussel ridge boats for sale louisiana; Mussels and more bay ridge; Rocky mountain ridged mussels bc; Michigan Commercial Masonry Construction Contractor Agreement. 42 Mussel Ridge - NJ. In 2022, Newport Yacht Builders latest new-build project is a Mussel Ridge ‘46. Property data for 42 Mitchell Circuit, Port Macquarie, NSW 2444. I hope she is real sneaky, and I love the black hull! Reactions: FPTMarineDiesel. 42 Mussel Ridge Diamond Sea Glaze . Jul 9, 2017 #3 Gurryman Admiral. That holland is stunning! key features: 2020 42’x15′ mussel ridge finished by clark island boatworks 12/20, 600 gallons fuel, 100 gallons water, cummins qsl 9 450 hp commercial rated. Sort by: Recommended. It features carefully curated resources, access to service providers and leverages the power of the community to navigate the complex and bureaucratic relocation process. Holding Tank Capacity: 40 gal. The dorsal edge is straight to broadly rounded and sharp; the posterior ridge is sharply angular; the anterior end is sharply pointed. Mussel ridge boats for sale south africa. Jason's 46 is the lite blue boat that he will finish to be a lobster boat. Jul 22, 2021. See full list on kusleryachts. . 42 Mussel Ridge 8675309 The boat is still for sale. 5:1 gear reduction does 32 knots. MA. Clark island installed two new hatches one custom made by their shop for the engine cover to make it flush in the pilothouse and a new H Gibbs custom made hatch for the fish hold. The Mea Culpa, designed by Jack Sarin, is 42. Mussel Ridge Another multi-model mold is owned by Hutchinson Composites in Cushing, home of the Mussel Ridge line. We had laser scanned another 46 as it came out of the tooling in late 2021. clarks boatworks portland | Sailing, Boat, Travel. Mussel ridge 28 for sale on are listed for a range of prices, valued from $189, 000 on the more basic models to $189, 000 for the most expensive. Property data for 40-42 Bridle Road, Morwell, VIC 3840. This sturdy and spacious center console can provide you with all you need to fish Blue Fin at San Clemente, Yellowtail at the Coronado Islands, or even some Rock Fish deep into Mexico. She is presently powered with a QSM 11 Cummins, but is switching. Australian Crystal Opal Shell Fossil Specimen Brilliant blue green 18ct. OPEN TO REASONABLE OFFERS. 2020 42' Mussel Ridge. engine will. . | Eliot, Maine. • 4 days ago. s immons boatworks, friendship, me owner:. 444 Seabreeze Boulevard, Daytona Beach, United States 32118. to 2 p. Kass has completed about 20 Carroll Lowell boats from 28 to 42 feet. Just a quick recap of my general philosophy and what we. Joined Sep 10, 2013 Posts 33. TWELVE Mussel Ridge Fishing Vessels filmed over the last three years!From 42' to 48' with John Deere, Volvo Penta, CAT and SCANIA power!All hulls manufacture. In 2016, Albert started on a. There are other slight differences that are lost on me but I assure you that they are there. Website. sw boatworks, lamoine, me finisher:. MLS# 1572871. 27 Photos 4. Joined Jun 2, 2015 Posts 99 Likes 71In 2018, Newport Yacht Builders in Newport, Rhode Island, were approached by an experienced client to develop and build a cruising boat for his young family based off of the Mussel Ridge 54 hull. The Mussel Ridge 46 is essentially a 42 with 4’ carefully added to the stern (with an eye on the run); when Justin mentioned to builder Albert Hutchinson that he wanted to go… To get the rest of the March 2017 issue of Commercial Fisheries News, please choose from the following options:Freshwater mussels of Ohio is a comprehensive guide to the diversity, ecology, and conservation of these aquatic animals. 23"N, 97°32'56. Ash Point Preserve 34-acre preserve with trails through coastal forest to 2,140’ granite shoreline; parking for several cars in lot off Ash Point Drive. 2,191 sqft. New. . There are no issues with it and was working fine when I removed. 1 of 82. and Three-ridge (Amblema plicata (Say, 1817)) fragments impossible to identify. James Thompson December 21, 2022so i wake up to thisWESMAC 57' LOBSTER BOAT3 beds, 1 bath, 2191 sq. Mar Geol 167:29–42. Ronald was born in Corning, NY, on August 26, 1947, to May (Anderson) and Malcolm Edsall. I gotta say it though, those speed numbers look a little rosy for 450 hp. Listing: Endangered. Throughout the years we have had back orders of up to 18 Hulls and Tops . To get it right, care must be taken to keep the build as light as possible, especially in the accommodations forward, as the added length. $3k plus shipping . Mussel ridge boats for sale sarasota. So, that is what he did ! The Mussel Ridge 46' came out . Thanks. 42 Mussel Ridge Very good info. 42 Mussel Ridge She will cruise around 15-17 knots and burn about 16-18. Category Downeast Boats. Mussel Ridge Historical Society estate sale will be Saturday, September 4, 2021, from 9 a. Visit Crexi. Talk about a joint effort, with a high-tech twist. It’s true for lobstermen who like a good race and true for those that fish offshore and don’t want to waste a lot of time getting there. REDUCED TO $650,000. If I was jumping up to a 42', the MR would be at the top of my list. Boat must have a diesel engine. Click to expand. This boat has been a joy to own. Skiffs also welcomeLocation. Explore. Any recommendations for boat shops that may be available or any free-lance guys. If you would like to get in touch with the owner then private message me he is one of my best friends and a great guy just like @CCtuna mentioned. hawkeye Deckhand. Joined Mar 16, 2012 Posts 96 Likes 30. the mussel uses its inhalent siphon to actively draw in water. You can buy the entire company, not just the boat. Newport Yacht Builders latest project is a Mussel Ridge ‘46. 1 Mussel Ridge Ln, Owls Head, ME 04854 is a single-family home listed for rent at $3,900 /mo. Manual, hydraulic, homemade, whatever. “The Mussel Ridge is designed to handle longer cruises from Maine to the Bahamas, while also being a great dayboat both north and south. Substrate colonized Hard only Hard and soft Zebra and quagga mussel comparison chartBathymodioline mussel (Gigantidas platifrons), patellogastropod limpet. The seamount and its volcanism. Thanks Eric . MLS# 1572871. We fish for bluefin tuna out of southern maine. More. 36' Downeast lobster/ tuna boat. Apr 5, 2013 #6 reelrampage35 1st Mate. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment JewelCove • Additional comment actions. . Limnology and Oceanography, 6: 400-415. Boys champions — Oceanside Mariners — in the Mussel Ridge youth tournament on March 19 in Tenants Harbor. A general discussion on all of your favorite builders & designers of downeast boat 25ft and over & your experiences, opinions, and specs of each. Why did you choose to buy a Mussel Ridge?Warning explicit downeast boat porn!!! 42' mussel ridge built by Mainely Boats 750 John Deere 25. ” That engine will be an 815-hp Moteurs Baudouin detuned to 750 hp. 74"W), a third order tributary of the Colorado River, which is located in eastern Travis County of Texas, with a watershed area of approximately 470 km 2. Water views from practicallyevery room this home which offers single floor living withthe primary bedroom suite located on the first floorwhich opens to a deck complete with hot tub!Crescent Beach, a favorite. US $1,188/mo. For more information on Down East boats for sale like the Mussel Ridge in New England click HERE: *50K REDUCTION 3/29/21* BRAND NEW 42′ MUSSEL RIDGE DOWNEAST / FINISHED AT CLARK ISLAND BOATWORKS – AVAILABLE NOW CUMMINS QSL9 450HP – CUMMINS ONAN 9KW – GARMIN. 2020 42' Mussel Ridge. Joined Nov 22, 2013 Posts 175 Likes 88 There is a 40+ muscle ridge whisper gray it looks great, Apr 19, 2016 #9 tunaorlater Admiral. $1,295,000 Last Sold Price. I have for sale an Airmar B164-0. oh yes didn't you buy that from a guy or dealer in CA, or was that someone else I read about on here? Address: 4900 US-17, De Leon Springs, FL. Request Info. Active. Joined Apr 16, 2015 Posts 116 Likes 101Tuna Wish—A Mussel Ridge 42 Refit . Cold seeps are deep-sea ‘oases’ with dense and dominant coexisting populations of large mussels and tubeworms under extreme environments. Brokerage Name. The 42 must look like a beast in person . Ask members to identify hull types. Both facts explain the 1,000-hp FPT diesel in the Reverence, a 42’ Mussel Ridge lobster boat that Sargent’s Custom Boats in Milbridge, Maine, built this year for Duncan Haass of Lamoine, Maine. There is not a nic on it. 425 Lily Bay Rd, Beaver Cove, ME 04441, USA. I appreciate you passing this along as I am having issues with both of my E120s and I am quite sure it is the same problem. They hail from Hutchinson Composites in Cushing, Maine, where Albert Hutchinson has carved out a niche for himself building bare hulls and decks for primarily commercial fishing vessels. 08/21/2020. Hutchinson Composite is to busy to build these and there are people calling wanting hull and tops. Mussel Ridge Boats For Sale Florida. If you check out the list of Mussel Ridge models that Cushing, Maine boat builder Hutchinson Composites offers, you’ll see a 42-footer with a 15’ beam; a 46 with the same. I see that Volvo offers a 13 liter powerplant all the way up to 900 hp, are these engines not used because of any particular reason, dependability, cost, parts cost?Calvin Beal 42. When the Mussel Ridge was first designed and built we built a lobster boat for a local fisherman "Xtreme Measures". Lot (Sq Ft) View detailed information about property Mussel Ridge Ln, Owls Head, ME 04854 including listing details, property photos, school and neighborhood data, and. Easier to hike out, and reduced drag with stabilizers dry + not spilling wind heeling over = boat now easily jumps up to 5. Mussel Ridge 42 For Sale. 563 inventoryGlad I wasn't the one to point out the engine box. . If i can be intrusive," I would like to get one built and put it on the market right away and then build another one. Interview with the Captain – Eli Dana. Mussel Ridge ,H&H Marine, Holland, Sisu, Wayne Beal, Calvin Beal, Wesmac ,Lowell,Duffy, Otis Enterprises,Young Brothers, Spencer Lincoln, BHM /. Thanks to NYB’s previous work on Mussel Ridge boats, prospective clients approached Jim about doing theirs. 1 Mussel Ridge Lane. The hull is deeper. Lakes, waterways, and ponds. I like that. . 00" bore work prefer LH but RH will work. 5 ft in beam and three ft in length. Mussel Ridge 46: The Boatbuilding Phase. This is HAWKEYE II, a Mussel Ridge 46, finished out as a sportfisherman for a customer in New York by Samoset Boat Works of Boothbay. There are many reasons to have a Maine-built Calvin Beal Boat: Very popular and handsome custom design. Joined Sep 1, 2011 Posts 6,726 Likes 5,282 Location Piker CentralCanvas is sand color. One of the nicest downeast boats around in this size range, impeccably. I was involved with two sea trials and the 42' Mussel Ridge did 29. realy liked lowell when i went to see. Rockbottom is a 46 Mussel Ridge owned by Richard Larrabee of Stonington is setting on her morning ready to go to haul. A Mussel Ridge 46 was trucked in last fall to the Samoset Boat Works shop in Booothbay. Location. side by side the 45 is a much bigger boat. 4 • special supplement – new boats of 2014 • commercial fisheries news • february 2015 builder:. We started before Albert began on the hull. ISO - 4 blade nibral 32 x 36. The QSL will cruise all day at 18-19 gph if propped correctly. Joined Sep 1, 2011. Fiberglass Blue/gray hull. Environ. I think I might hear the wheels turning. Thread starter sp543; Start date Dec 14, 2020; Dec 14, 2020 #1 S. DE sun tanning :) The Premier Forum Dedicated to the Downeast Boat Enthusiast. Larrabee had been fishing on a 42-foot boat that he’d bought from another fisherman, but it wasn’t set up. Throughout the years we have had back orders of up to 18 Hulls and Tops . $690,000. 400 SE 5th Ave, Pompano Beach, FL 33060. All sales will be final. 1,050 sqft. Joined Sep 12, 2014 Posts 666 Likes 142 Location Westport, MA. After more than a year of planning and design, the hull and deck were completed just before Christmas in Cushing, Maine. Gills and digestive glands accumulate the highest. I had the boat for sale last year and I pulled it off because the timing was just not. Mussel Ridge 42 For Sale. Thinking that. ” That engine will be an 815-hp Moteurs Baudouin detuned to 750 hp. r/sailing. Joined Mar 20, 2013 Posts 5 Likes 0 Location Newburyport, MA Boat Make Grady White bump. Kusler Yachts specializes in helping clients source, modify, and take delivery of the perfect boat for their West Coast applications—no matter where in the world it is listed. Price insights for 4 bedroom houses in Box Hill South. He said back in the early '60s she was laying on her side in a field, before being saved. Oct 14, 2017 #2 WoundUpMarine Admiral. Incredibly rare opportunity to own this beautifulwaterfront property overlooking the Muscle RidgeChannel and beyond. 1961. Median price. Like. 42 mussel ridge with cat c12 . Thread starter Eastporter; Start date Feb 20, 2016; Feb 20, 2016 #1 E. Half of. Mainely Boats · October 28, 2015 · · October 28, 2015 ·Nope, I have done a ton of additional work to her and am fishing her when time permits. . She has a bimini and full canvas enclosure for boating in inclement weather. 2:1 reduction weighing around 27,000lbs and a 38' Norther Bay at around 18,000lbs with 1. SOME HIGHLIGHTS - FULL DETAILS SOON. 5 John deer with less than 1000 hours , generator with less 300. 61. Dec 22, 2020 #2 Hobie1 Deckhand. 42' Mussel Ridge Lobster Boat - Scania 600 HP For Sale. They are long lived species and are sensitive to environmental change which makes them great indicators for long-term degradation, or. Jul 21, 2016 #17 Downrigga Admiral. It’s a very robust 450hp engine; it’s not a lightweight recreational engine like a. 42 ft 2020 Mussel Ridge 42 Downeast. 6. Message for. I have done a few new upgrades since last fall. $6,599. MRHS will accept cash or local checks. 02:14:46 - Thank you for tuning into the SeaBros Fishing Podcast!On this episode we sit down and share fishing stories, some good laughs, and a ton of great kn…Hutchinson Composite. Canada, United States. Under the platform she will have tankage for crates and a rope locker. 5 w/2. s immons boatworks. Joined Sep 1, 2011 Posts 4,471 Likes 1,828 Location MA Boat Make Sold- 20' Eastporter (Rebuilt 2011) 22' Pearson Ensign Hutchinson Composite's Facebook page- The owner's son's new boat. 108k Gross income, expenses10k a year. Email protected] with serious inquiries only. Once the bare hull was molded, Newport Yacht Collaborative recorded the. 5 baths, 2126 sq. Areas of previously undescribed ridge development are circled. Location. NAI Realvest Daytona Beach. Georgia boasts one of the most diverse freshwater mussel faunas in the world and is home to over 120 species—over 10% of all freshwater mussel species worldwide. . One of the best match-ups was between Isaac & Colby, a 46 Wayne Beal with 1,400-hp MAN, and Salt Shaker, a new 42 Mussel Ridge with a 1,000-hp MAN that was launched in June. 46 • commercial fisheries news • august 2014 builder:. Not rated. Sq Ft. Boat Make. 2005; Chen et al. 28 Northern Bay. 2 knots (had it. View details, map and photos of this lots/land property with 0 bedrooms and 0 total baths. The 42 mussel ridge. Reactions: Powderpro. Mussel ridge boats for sale california; Best Defense Fantasy Week 16. Mussel Ridge 28 in Barnstable Used boats - Top Boats. 19:1 gear and full of fuel with an unkown weight the boat did 29 knots on sea trial. A unique, small treasure to own and enjoy a quiet little point overlooking the. APN 464269. Great boat I am moving up. Albert has orders for these boats, for work and pleasure, going out over two years. Incredibly rare opportunity to own this beautiful wa. The Mussel Ridge 46 moved indoors for final assembly and systems installation in December, 2022. Comment. When he finally found the boat, a five. 3 Beds. The new Belize 54 is a boutique, semi-custom yacht that shows the lessons learned over the past 25 years. 4. Joined Jun 18, 2013 Posts 310 Likes 318. Joined Sep 9, 2012 Posts 11,082 Likes 14,380 Age 84 Location mid coast Maine First Name Don Boat Make Ho Made Boy that's a lot of boat for that money. 450hp is 23 gph. Mussel Ridge 46 from Samoset Boat Works. O'Neil. Thread starter jim; Start date Sep 12, 2020; Sep 12, 2020 #1 jim Admiral. . They anchor themselves to rocky surfaces, bridges, ships and other hard substrata by producing. It is out of Friendship ME. Joined Sep 7, 2011Fuel economy is always the biggest awe factor for the power that they make. The bare hull is listed at $36,500 and the wheelhouse plus installation is $31,700. The estimate for 1 Mussel Ridge Ln is based on comparable homes below. In order to compare the full mussel shapes, a surface representation in 3D, using the ridge and perimeter of the mussel shape (Fig. It has begun!5. She has a c-18 for power top end speed is 27 knots. . Median price. Advantage Yacht Sales. Someone is going to end up with a really nice rig. Jun 14, 2023 Location. Comfortably finished for canyon tuna fishing. (2007), pp. Have been looking at a few websites but don't know who will give me the best quality and price. 32x35 x5 prop. Joined Dec 3, 2011 Posts 4,892 Likes 6,251 Location The Ocean Website Boat Make O'Neil There's not a better looking boat than the 46' Mussel Ridge . She is now in the yard in Newport, Rhode Island and the team is hard at work getting her ready for a spring 2023 debut! Read More 42 Mussel Ridge Just because a boat is beamy doesn’t mean it will be slow. I have fished alot on a 29 h&h osmond. 2013). This particular Tiara 3500 is powered with the optional twin 420 HP Cummins diesels that will cruise the boat at 28 knots with a top speed of approximately 32 knots. The time is coming when I am gunna be able to afford a dream :-). S. The owner planned on putting a high-tech solar system with lithium ion. Joined Nov 5, 2018 Posts 168 Likes 294 Age 49. In the four months since then, we’ve undertaken the boatbuilding phase of the project, turning those components into what is undeniably a good-looking vessel. Dinkins2, J. S. Are you guys using a GoPro off the tower or hardtop? 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